Susan and Sharon sit down with the co-creator of “Scarecrow & Mrs. King” - Eugenie Ross-Leming - to get some real behind-the-scenes insight on the Kate Jackson action comedy, feminism in television, and managing long-term success in Hollywood. The discussion includes…
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The Conversation

  • Eugenie’s early years with the legendary improvisation troupe Second City, where she performed with everyone from John Belushi to Harold Ramis to Bill Murray.
  • Breaking into TV and writing for Norman Lear on the ground-breaking late-night serials “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman” starring Louise Lasser and “Fernwood 2 Night” starring Martin Mull and Fred Willard.
  • How she and writing partner Brad Buckner first pitched “Scarecrow & Mrs. King” to CBS -- and failed to sell it – only to have their luck change when junior executive Carla Singer was promoted and brought them back for another shot.
  • Working with Kate Jackson and the last-minute casting of Bruce Boxleitner.
  • Details on the wild days of producing the “Scarecrow” pilot – and her and Brad’s decision to leave the highly successful hit series they created.
Along the way, we’ll hear about the importance of staying true to your vision, the lessons learned over a forty-year career that spans “Scarecrow” to “Lois & Clark” to “Supernatural” -- and the sustaining power of two of the most important relationships in her life: her longtime writing partner Brad Buckner, and her husband, Director and Producer Robert Singer. 

Join us as we go in-depth with a TV legend and creative powerhouse: Eugenie Ross-Leming.

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80s TV Ladies™ Episode 104 - “Scarecrow and Ms. Eugenie Ross-Leming”
Produced by 134 West and Susan Lambert Hatem.
Hosted by Susan Lambert Hatem and Sharon Johnson.
Guest: Eugenie Ross-Leming.
Sound Engineer and Editor: Kevin Ducey.
Editor: Chris Stachiw.
Producer: Melissa Roth.
Associate Producer: Sergio Perez.
Music by Amy Engelhardt.
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