Susan and Sharon are thrilled to sit down with show business legend Sharon Gless. Multi-Emmy and Golden Globe winner, Sharon Gless has appeared in dozens of television shows such as “Nip/Tuck”, “Rizzoli & Isles”, “The Rockford Files”, “House Calls,”The Bob Newhart Show”, “Station 19” and “The Exorcist.” She has created iconic and ground-breaking characters in the shows “Burn Notice”, “Queer as Folk”, “The Trials of Rosie O’Neill” and of course “Cagney & Lacey”.

In 2021 she published her bestselling, no-holds-barred autobiography “Apparently There Were Complaints”. In this in-depth interview, Sharon Gless talks frankly about feminism, her ongoing friendship with Tyne Daly, her affair, marriage and almost-divorce from Barney Rosenzweig, her struggles with substance abuse and recovery -- and the lasting legacy of the characters she’s played.
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The Conversation

  • The moment Sharon Gless knew she wanted to be an actress – and knew she would not fail
  • “The first feminist I ever met…” -- Barney Rosenzweig??
  • How Cagney and Lacey we’re NEVER friends.
  • How Sharon was actually the VERY FIRST person approached to play Christine Cagney – and why she turned it down.
  • Earning $186 a week as the last contract player at Universal.
  • “The Woman Behind the Woman”: how talent manager Monique James left her position as VP at MCA/Universal to become Sharon’s personal manager – and changed her life.
  • Being forced to watch herself on film to learn what she was doing right -- and wrong.
  • Hashing out billing, and rehearsing her first table read as Cagney, with Tyne Daly over a bottle of champagne.
  • Why Christine Cagney wanted to be first through the door with a gun.
  • Improvising and window shopping for the Cagney & Lacey main titles.
  • Participating with Tyne Daly and Gloria Steinem in the 2004 Women’s March on Washington –- and seeing the true impact of “Cagney & Lacey” for the first time.
  • Being Stephen J. Cannell’s “good luck charm!”
  • Falling in love with Debbie Novotny on “Queer as Folk”.
  • How she’s starred in NINE TV shows, and why she’s ready for one more!
So join Susan, Sharon – and Sharon Gless -- as they talk poker nights with Tyne, the “C”-word, the other “C”-word -- and what did she really say to that flasher??

Our Audio-ography

All 5 seasons of “Remington Steele” are now available on Amazon Prime and AppleTV!

Official website: SharonGless.com 

Sharon Gless Facebook page.

Sharon Gless’ autobiography “Apparently There Were Complaints” at Bookshop

Watch the trailer for Sharon’s upcoming Documentary - Show Her The Money


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80s TV Ladies™ Episode 120 – “Cagney & Lacey: Creating Christine Cagney with Sharon Gless”
Produced by 134 West and Susan Lambert Hatem.
Hosted by Susan Lambert Hatem and Sharon Johnson.
Guests: Sharon Gless.
Sound Engineer and Editor: Kevin Ducey.
Producers: Richard Hatem. Melissa Roth.
Associate Producer: Sergio Perez.
Music by Amy Engelhardt.
Copyright 2023 134 West, LLC and Susan Lambert. All Rights Reserved.