Episode 227: The Making of Moonlighting | Glenn Gordon Caron, Part 2

“I said to Cybill Shepherd, ‘You are a Prima Donna!’ And she said, ‘Yes. I am. Do you know what ‘Prima Donna’ means, Glenn? It means First Woman. And don’t you forget it.” – Glenn Gordon Caron, creator of Moonlighting
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The Conversation

  • Getting invited to the horse races by Cary Grant – who dies before they could go!
  • How dinner with Stanley Donen led to Glenn asking him to direct the dance sequence from “Big Man on Mulberry Street” as a favor. But what did Donen ask in return? That Glenn co-write that year’s Academy Award show with Larry Gelbart!
  • How a chance meeting with Rona Barrett resulted in one of the weirdest -- and most talked-about -- episodes of Moonlighting ever!
  • On Cybill Shepherd: “The topography of her life fit the topography of the story. She was a model. She became a huge movie star. And then she lost everything.”
  • On Bruce Willis: “He was like thirty guys I grew up with. And I understood, underneath all that bravura, and all that jazz, there’s a genuineness that’s hard to resist."
  • WHEN LES IS MORE: How Now and Again was born when Les Moonves told Glenn: “Write me a pilot, and if I don’t make it, I’ll give you one million dollars.”
  • How for Glenn, the TV show Medium is less the story of a mystic – and more the story of a marriage.

So, join Susan and Sharon – and Glenn – as they talk Pierce Brosnan, Love Affair, Jennifer Aniston, Clean and Sober -- and Susan’s Vicodin mood swings!

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Credits: 80s TV Ladies™ Episode 227: “The Making of Moonlighting | Glenn Gordon Caron, Part 2” Produced by 134 West and Susan Lambert Hatem. Hosted by Susan Lambert Hatem and Sharon Johnson. Guest: Glen Gordon Caron. Sound Engineer and Editor: Kevin Ducey. Producer: Melissa Roth. Associate Producer: Sergio Perez. Music by Amy Engelhardt. Copyright 2024 134 West, LLC and Susan Lambert. All Rights Reserved.